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Here's what I can come up with off the top of my head, I'm sure there's a bunch I've missed so let's try and figure out what the possibilities are.

Fain & his Fade
Chora Trees
Mat's Hat
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What specifically did you have in mind about Mat's hat?
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It's a good bloody hat.
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It's a good bloody hat.
wouldn't that be bloody good hat?
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Here is a list of things on the original thread that had been theorized before Terez said we were on the wrong track. I didn't include things like "they spent a lot of time in the Waste in those books" or "it might have something to do with the rescue of Moiraine." Basically, anytime someone listed a bunch of things that happened in 4-6 or listed plotlines that will be addressed in the last two books, I left those out. I only included things that were discussed in some detail. We can always add more or subtract if we need to. I'm also not sure how many posts went up between Terez' source reading the thread and her posting that we were on the wrong track. In other words, take the list with a grain of salt!

Not Moghedian ripping Birgitte out of T'A'R
Not Leilwin
Not Egwene using need in T'A'R, finding Tinker camp
Not Nynaeve and Elayne using need in T'A'R
Not Tinkers
Not Ogiers
Not Farstrider in Graendal's lair
Not Fel's note
Not Fel's belief that Rand couldn't seal the prison
Not Sharan armies
Not the Gholam
Not Birgitte on Moiraine rescue
Not Demandred's "balefire" visit to Dark One
Not the sisters Siuan sent to re-capture Taim
Not the remaining Liandrin-led BA
Not Sahra Covenry
Not Graendal and Ituralde
Not related to multiple ta'veren in *Finn doorways
Not Moiraine making Aelfinn wishes
Not Rand at one with the land
Not Fisher King
Not Joiya's Taim-escape plot
Not Seed Singing's non-channeling
Not "Taim is caught in a mindtrap"
Not Moiraine's Eelfinn questions
Not the ashandarei
Not Taim's relationship with Bashere
Not Avendesora
Nothing about Theodrin being behind bars
Not about 13 Aes Sedai turning anyone
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wouldn't that be bloody good hat?
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TITLE - The Gathering Storm
CHAPTER: 28 - Night in Hinderstap

He fell silent. Mat glanced at Thom, who did not respond. Mat could see in those blue eyes of his that he was memorizing the tale. He'd better get it right if he puts me in any ballads, Mat thought, folding his arms. And he'd better include my hat. This is a good bloody hat.
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-Something to do with the seafolk bargain; the seafolk haven't been used enough since book 5/6.

-I dont know if this has been discussed a while ago, but is there any explanation as to why the darkone asked Demandred to be neablis "using balefire quote", then like 1 book later Ishy shows up again as neablis?
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Here is a list of things on the original thread that had been theorized before Terez said we were on the wrong track. I didn't include things like "they spent a lot of time in the Waste in those books" or "it might have something to do with the rescue of Moiraine." Basically, anytime someone listed a bunch of things that happened in 4-6 or listed plotlines that will be addressed in the last two books, I left those out. I only included things that were discussed in some detail. We can always add more or subtract if we need to. I'm also not sure how many posts went up between Terez' source reading the thread and her posting that we were on the wrong track. In other words, take the list with a grain of salt!

Not Moghedian ripping Birgitte out of T'A'R
Not Leilwin
Not Egwene using need in T'A'R, finding Tinker camp
Not Nynaeve and Elayne using need in T'A'R
Not Tinkers
Not Ogiers
Not Farstrider in Graendal's lair
Not Fel's note
Not Fel's belief that Rand couldn't seal the prison
Not Sharan armies
Not the Gholam
Not Birgitte on Moiraine rescue
Not Demandred's "balefire" visit to Dark One
Not the sisters Siuan sent to re-capture Taim
Not the remaining Liandrin-led BA
Not Sahra Covenry
Not Graendal and Ituralde
Not related to multiple ta'veren in *Finn doorways
Not Moiraine making Aelfinn wishes
Not Rand at one with the land
Not Fisher King
Not Joiya's Taim-escape plot
Not Seed Singing's non-channeling
Not "Taim is caught in a mindtrap"
Not Moiraine's Eelfinn questions
Not the ashandarei
Not Taim's relationship with Bashere
Not Avendesora
Nothing about Theodrin being behind bars
Not about 13 Aes Sedai turning anyone

whoa whoa whoa

forgive my youngling ignorance, but, uh... am I reading into this correctly that Terez has some inkling as to what exactly the item is?
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whoa whoa whoa

forgive my youngling ignorance, but, uh... am I reading into this correctly that Terez has some inkling as to what exactly the item is?
She indicated that a reliable source said that we weren't on the right track. She said she didn't know what the actual thing was. It was way back on the original thread and you would have had to go through a lot of Valan Luca posts to get to it.
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-I dont know if this has been discussed a while ago, but is there any explanation as to why the darkone asked Demandred to be neablis "using balefire quote", then like 1 book later Ishy shows up again as neablis?
I think the Dark One was insinuating that he could make Demandred Nea'blis, not specifically saying that he would. I believe the quote was, "Would you be Nae'blis?" Inspiring the troops, maybe? Ishamael has been #1 Forsaken since the beginning, as far as I'm concerned.
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Keep in mind that it has to be something that is repeated in many of the books since 6. Anything that has not been brought up since then is not it.
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Keep in mind that it has to be something that is repeated in many of the books since 6. Anything that has not been brought up since then is not it.
Why is that? I'd figure that why we have totally missed the "minor detail" is because it was mentioned only once or twice in either book 4, 5 or 6 and then never again since then.

Or has BS or any other reliable source said something more since his first statement that would make us think that the minor detail is something commonly mentioned? (Been out of the loop for a few days)
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I'm not quite sure how it could fit in, but the Manetheren banner has been around since book 4. I was annoyed at Perrin when he gave it to the Seanchan, selling out his people for Faile. I'm sure that we'll see something more about that and I'm sure Rand won't be all that thrilled with what he did. Not quite sure how it could play an important role, but....
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Wolfhead banner too. that's been around along with the Manetheren banner and has been in just about every book.
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Why is that? I'd figure that why we have totally missed the "minor detail" is because it was mentioned only once or twice in either book 4, 5 or 6 and then never again since then.

Or has BS or any other reliable source said something more since his first statement that would make us think that the minor detail is something commonly mentioned? (Been out of the loop for a few days)
Brandon first stated it was in every book since the first mention and then revised it to be most. I can find the quotes right now, sorry.
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was sure it was the other way around. good bloody hat sounds stupid
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was sure it was the other way around. good bloody hat sounds stupid
Why?
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