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Old 10-13-2010, 06:32 AM
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Heya Theorylanders,

I've been a long-time lurk(er). Because I want to post some theories on Theoryland -so close before the Last Day- I decided to finally step into the Light.
For.. no man can walk so long in the Shadow that he cannot come again to the Light.
Right? Right!

I'm a 34 year old Dutchy. A dad to a little boy (8 months) & girl (2 years old). An engineer at a big company in the Netherlands. A rower & a die-hard WoT-fanatic since '94.

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P.S: one small question; when I want to post a theory, it says I can't use html-tags. But I take it I can use all the standard stuff (<--- like this)that I can use to post this message..right?
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*runs from the flood of newbies*
*has another look*

Wait! Dutchy you said? We're taking over!

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Welcome, Mik.... dutch invasion indeed

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Consider yourself officially welcomed to Theoryland Mik!!! (Why DO we get so many Dutchies? For such a small country you sure do know how to invade!!!) As I'm sure you've noticed, we have a pretty decent community of WoT fanatics over here. One of the ways that we keep it all friendly is a short list of courtesies we ask people to follow and, once in a while, actually do get followed. Imagine that! Insane people following some sort of order!


1) Don't flood the board with multiple THREADS all at once.
Allow us the time to absorb, evaluate, and discuss, OR LAUGH at one or two ideas, OR JOKES at a time. Some of us like to do a little research before responding and that can take a little time. Of course, we also have those others who are just a bit slow. Read that as "just can't handle more than one thought in their heads at once" or "dial-up modem". Your choice. I'd suggest "have a real life", but not likely. Does anyone still have dial up? Wow...it's getting hard to give the slow people an excuse

Addendum to 1) Try to stay on topic.
Going off on tangents can be super fun and is something we are all guilty of your's truly included but try and keep threads on topic unless, 1) the thread is dead or 2) the thread naturally moves over to another topic. This rule is much more lax for joke threads, pop culture threads...etc.

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Welcome to TL I hope you enjoy your stay if you are like the other dutchies i would welcome you to come over to the non-wot board to voice your opinion.
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Old 10-13-2010, 09:24 AM
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blijkbaar kunnen wij nu (of straks) de algemene taal van de forums naar Nederlands te veranderen toch?

I don't know about posting theories, haven't done one in years...
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Ja, we kunnen ook lekker in het nederlands gaan praten. Jammer dat de wot termen zo slecht klinken
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If you manage to hold out just a bit*, you will have king wimpie instead.

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aren't you dutchies good with floods?

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Heya Theorylanders,

I've been a long-time lurk(er). Because I want to post some theories on Theoryland -so close before the Last Day- I decided to finally step into the Light.
For.. no man can walk so long in the Shadow that he cannot come again to the Light.
Right? Right!

I'm a 34 year old Dutchy. A dad to a little boy (8 months) & girl (2 years old). An engineer at a big company in the Netherlands. A rower & a die-hard WoT-fanatic since '94.

*waves*

Cheerio,
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P.S: one small question; when I want to post a theory, it says I can't use html-tags. But I take it I can use all the standard stuff (<--- like this)that I can use to post this message..right?
I've changed that...but not reflected it on the site...I need to do that. You should use HTML tags, but the basics.

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With those variations you should be able to evoke all of the standard stylings for your theories. When theories come in, along with replies, I tend to go through and add paragraphs.

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Hey Mik. I don't think I have seen you since our pre-TGS fight about Egwene at 13thD.

Welkom bij Theoryland!

(I have no idea if that's correct, but my Dutch isn't that good. )
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Heya Theorylanders,

I've been a long-time lurk(er). Because I want to post some theories on Theoryland -so close before the Last Day- I decided to finally step into the Light.
For.. no man can walk so long in the Shadow that he cannot come again to the Light.
Right? Right!

I'm a 34 year old Dutchy. A dad to a little boy (8 months) & girl (2 years old). An engineer at a big company in the Netherlands. A rower & a die-hard WoT-fanatic since '94.

*waves*

Cheerio,
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P.S: one small question; when I want to post a theory, it says I can't use html-tags. But I take it I can use all the standard stuff (<--- like this)that I can use to post this message..right?

Wow...another Dutchy?!? RJ must be the most popular English language author in the Netherlands.

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Wow...another Dutchy?!? RJ must be the most popular English language author in the Netherlands.
nope... a very large majority of the Dutch is very good in English (spoken and written)... better then most English natives...


oh.. and we Dutchies are also known for our modesty
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nope... a very large majority of the Dutch is very good in English (spoken and written)... better then most English natives...


oh.. and we Dutchies are also known for our modesty
hehehehe... Apparently, you are less talented in the reading comprehension area.(No offense intended. It's just funny.) Davian wasn't saying any Dutch people were bad at speaking English. He was saying that RJ must be the most popular English-language author in the Netherlands, judging by the sheer number of fans from there that have found their way into the internet fandom community.
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hehehehe... Apparently, you are less talented in the reading comprehension area.(No offense intended. It's just funny.) Davian wasn't saying any Dutch people were bad at speaking English. He was saying that RJ must be the most popular English-language author in the Netherlands, judging by the sheer number of fans from there that have found their way into the internet fandom community.
You might have misunderstood him. He's just pointing out that a lot of Dutch can read English, and therefore more Dutch read WoT. This doesn't rule out Dutch reading any other English books as well.
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You might have misunderstood him. He's just pointing out that a lot of Dutch can read English, and therefore more Dutch read WoT. This doesn't rule out Dutch reading any other English books as well.
Yeah, but RJ being the most popular doesn't mean he has no competition.
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hehehehe... Apparently, you are less talented in the reading comprehension area.(No offense intended. It's just funny.) Davian wasn't saying any Dutch people were bad at speaking English. He was saying that RJ must be the most popular English-language author in the Netherlands, judging by the sheer number of fans from there that have found their way into the internet fandom community.
I guess that I'm a bit gifted at cutting corners when posting in a hurry

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RJ must be the most popular English language author in the Netherlands.
I don't think RJ is the most popular English author in the Netherlands (hence the: 'nope' in my previous post). I don't have a clue who is.

Most works which sell well are also translated into Dutch so they have a better market for the book (WoT is translated too). I don't think WoT books hit the top 10 here in the Netherlands, partially because some people buy the English version while only the Dutch version is counted, partially because fantasy isn't real LITATURE (less bookshelves in the store), partially, I guess, not enough people who buy the books.

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Originally Posted by Davin93 View Post
Wow...another Dutchy?!?
I think there are 4 main reasons why there are a lot of Dutchies here
  • Although there are a lot of Dutchies here, this number isn't sufficient to have a good 'Dutch-only' website/forum.
  • our 'not-to-bad' knowledge of the English language (years of education and subtitles in the reruns of 'the A-team' (ta tata ta-ta ta))
  • our international orientation as a people
  • a wonderfull discovery called 'the internet'


About the modesty in my last post:
I have no clue how it ended up there... I'm pleading temperal insanity
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