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true it seems more fun to sit on the edge and throw things in to keep them going until they fall asleep

on the topic of throwing things in egwene thinks that when skimming if she falls off she would be ok but someone who cant channel will die falling. so how did they test this because i wouldnt just take her word on it, do you think they just kicked an aes sedai and her warder off to see what would happen?
Egwene al'Vere would be okay, because she is a Dreamer. Any Dreamer should be okay if they fell off a Skimming platform. One problem is for non-Dreamer's, is the Skimming platform occurs outside a Mirror World, say 'Earth'. Whereas, Traveling gateway occurs within a given World. This distinction is one reason, why Moghedien wasn't safe skimming to visit Shayol Ghul.


I do wonder if Trollocs could survive moving from place to place via a Skimming platform?
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what did i miss i dont remember skimming and dreaming having a link?

this was more about how they tested it, maybe this was tested after bryne said he didnt have enough pikes for heads will all the dragonsworn they have come across.
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No, they could not survive that. They would start feeling peckish halfway through, and eat the Skimmmer. After which the skimming platform would disappear, of course, and the Trollocs would all die.

Really, this is rather elementary. If it could be done, then it would have been done. So the fact that it hadn't been done proves my explanation to be accurate.
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Hasn't any one ever wondered how Myrddraal can move from place to place, on an edge of a Shadow?

Do Myrddraal Skim?
No. If they did, then Aginor would have figured that out, when he did his research into how exactly they moved around.
Do you have evidence from the books to show that Aginor was not capable of Skimming?
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No. If they did, then Aginor would have figured that out, when he did his research into how exactly they moved around.
Do you have evidence from the books to show that Aginor was not capable of Skimming?
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No. If they did, then Aginor would have figured that out, when he did his research into how exactly they moved around.
Do you have evidence from the books to show that Aginor was not capable of Skimming?
I mentioned only characters known to be "alive", who are Dreamer's or Dreamwalkers.

Aginor (Osan'gar) should have known how to Skim. Osan'gar was able to Travel to Aridhol. If Asmodean and Moghedien could separately teach Rand and Egwene Skimming, I'd find it bizarre if Aginor didn't know how.

I wouldn't be shocked if Aginor/Osan'gar was brought back for a third act, in 'A Memory of Light' book, by the Dark One. Why? Chosen supply shortage.
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Hey, that could be a way of finding male channelers. Why didn't the Red Ajah ever have this idea?
Somehow, I dont think the Red Ajah have that much interest in tasting any male channeler's "Meat".
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Hey, that could be a way of finding male channelers. Why didn't the Red Ajah ever have this idea?
That sounds more like a task for the Green Ajah.

I'm sure Joline would want to taste Mat, just to make sure:

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Joline sniffed. "Be quiet Cauthon, and lie still for me. This needs to be done."

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"I know that already!" Mat shouted at the slender Green. "Mother's milk in your mouth!"
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blue?????????//
What the hell have you been drinking to cause that?
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Heh. Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh... yyyyeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

Must've been a Slurpee, eh? One of those ones where you mix all the flavors together and shake it up really well...

That was pretty dirty.

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i got that but after what she just did he should have been blue
the way that was put it was like you thought something out of mat had caused it and i know of nothing that could change the colour of that
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i think mat likes honey buns the most but cant do anything about it until his wife returns
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Probably was a little lost in translation from my attempt to be vague enough. Lol. Oh well.
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none of this has told me where the link from skimming to dreaming is? i cant think of how that came about
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People generally seem to think the method of making a platform in the skimming space is akin to manipulating the World of Dreams.
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but if that was the case when Rand took the Aiel with him wouldnt things have kept appearing all over the place like noobs learning the dream make whatever they think about show up?
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Maybe only the person who opened the gateway can do it, or maybe there's less to work with. Maybe it requires a greater amount of willpower. I don't know.
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well wasnt Rahvin on Rands mind so that wouldnt have been good, and its not like anyone explain the dream rules to him and willpower isnt an issue for him.

im not saying this is wrong i just never looked at it this way before
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Idle speculation, but perhaps the explanation is that the Skimming place is a specialised kind of Tel'aran'rhiod with the function of taking one where one needs to go, as opposed to normal TAR which provides whatever the Dreamwalker needs, or thinks they need. With that in mind, the skimming platform would be a function of said need, but its shape, unlike anything else within the skimming space, would be determined by the user. Thus, the skimming space is literally that which the colloquial name implies; a world created for the purpose of skimming.

If it is, then it suggests that creating worlds within TAR is entirely possible.
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