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I absolutely loathe this agreement. Way to prop up the failing music and movie industry by letting them sue people for tens of thousands for downloading a few songs or movies.
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God forbid a dying industry adapt to new technology instead of an outdated and ridiculous price structure.
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Hey, look at the bright side. Whatever that is, in this case.
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Pirates are going to be up in arrrrms about this.
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Among other things, the accord demands governments make it unlawful to market devices that circumvent copyright, such as devices that copy encrypted DVDs without authorization. That is akin to a feature in the the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in the United States, where the law has been used by Hollywood studios to block RealNetworks from marketing DVD-copying technology.
Or, to name another example: pen and paper. With those, you could easily (though somewhat laboriously, perhaps) copy coyprighted documents.

Thus, we can now expect all sales of writing equipment in the USA to stop.

Assuming, of course, that the US government is going to be "fair and balanced" about this.
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Or, to name another example: pen and paper. With those, you could easily (though somewhat laboriously, perhaps) copy coyprighted documents.

Thus, we can now expect all sales of writing equipment in the USA to stop.

Assuming, of course, that the US government is going to be "fair and balanced" about this.
And cameras, keyboards or musical instruments, to name a few more devices that could be used to infringe on copyright property.
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Why do that Dav? I mean they're already paying their lawyers tons of cash. It's cheaper just to make them prop-up their bloated carcass instead of spending money on infrastructure to redevelop themselves.
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I'll guess that this sort of thing will sort it self out from the bottom up, but it'll take some time.
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I found the most interesting claim to be those who pushed this through don't seem to think Congressional approval is needed. Something tells me that stance might get this accord in trouble domestically. I can't imagine why it would get in trouble though. Nope nope nope.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2

Besides, its not like this will really do anything to eliminate piracy. China is not a part of this agreement after all.
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I found the most interesting claim to be those who pushed this through don't seem to think Congressional approval is needed. Something tells me that stance might get this accord in trouble domestically. I can't imagine why it would get in trouble though. Nope nope nope.

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Besides, its not like this will really do anything to eliminate piracy. China is not a part of this agreement after all.
True, but it will let a variety of overpaid lawyers sue the hell out of college kids or high school kids' parents for downloading some songs or movies from the internet. You know, cause what the US really needs right now are big businesses frivolously suing people.
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True, but it will let a variety of overpaid lawyers sue the hell out of college kids or high school kids' parents for downloading some songs or movies from the internet. You know, cause what the US really needs right now are big businesses frivolously suing people.
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you need to cross out the "il" in illegal as they're killing it in a very legal and very profitable fashion. Just go look at the popular music charts. There isn't any real music in there...and they're making BILLIONS off of it.
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you need to cross out the "il" in illegal as they're killing it in a very legal and very profitable fashion. Just go look at the popular music charts. There isn't any real music in there...and they're making BILLIONS off of it.
People have been saying this for as long as I can remember (which isn't all that long, admittedly). Unless the "real music" (lol at that, by the way) has gone away, your argument is silly. And even if the music industry is killing "real music", how in the hell is piracy supposed to help? "I know what we'll do, we'll encourage the growth of real music by not paying for it!"
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Real music is anything before Bach (his works can be found on CDs, so that's part of the music industry too), plus Björk. The latter is some sort of alien infiltrator, though I don't know what planet she* comes from.

And Britney, of course, but you lot don't seem to like her.

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"Real music", if you want to classify it that way, has sort of gone away, or at least been so massively changed that. Think about the greatest pieces of music ever produced.

As Gonzo has mockingly suggested, the names include the likes of Bach, Beethoven (and other old guys in whigs who's last names begin with B) and the like. Do you ever think Britney Spears, Katy Perry or Kanye West will be mentioned in the same breathe as what is defined as some of the best musicians of the world?
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Fiction doesn't count, otherwise I would have added in this
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"I know what we'll do, we'll encourage the growth of real music by not paying for it!"
artists are making more money from concerts than ever. in fact the only thing that is going down is the CD-sales...

because. you know. the CD is dead. like the casette, the LP, the music box and banging on pots.

but I'm not gonna get into this argument. I've heard pretty much every argument from both sides too many times, and my opinion is very unlikely to change
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