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I tried searching for this but if its been discussed i couldnt bring it up. in the trial by light between galad and valda words are used that hints to galad being able to channel. i dont have the book in front of me but something about noticing things finely or whatnot. can he channel and why is it showing up so late i heard that men show later than women. or is it some force bringing it out ie for the last battle etc
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The same words are used to hint that Lan could channel. Except that's not how they were meant at all. It's the void, which is necessary for channeling, but not strictly related.
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It is a matter of concentrating without getting distracted by focusing on concentrating. Which, I'll admit, may not clarify things too much.

Perhaps a well known real world variation will help: when people are angry, they are often given the advice "first count to ten". That's not because counting to ten will actually resolve whatever it is that makes you angry. Nor is it because numbers are particularly well suited to dealing with jerks who step on your toes. It is because it distracts you a bit, which gives you time to think, and, perhaps just as importantly, makes it necessary for your mind to reorganise things so that you can once again focus on what actually matters. After which the normal reaction is just to punch the jerk in the face anyway, of course, but the fact that humans can't make this idea work properly is not a slight on the approach itself.

In Randland, instead of counting to ten, people (warriors, especially) mentally feed all their emotions and other distractions into an imaginary flame, so that there's nothing left but that which they have to deal with.

Of course, if I'm right, then the void would not be actually necessary for channeling. The same thing could be achieved in another way too. But, because all (male) channelers are trained with the void, they need it in order to be effective.
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I counted to 10 once... and balefired my Lunch...

It's too risky don't do it unless you are sure you can't Channel...
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It's too risky don't do it unless you are sure you can't Channel...
I have red hair and grey eyes, does that mean I should stay away from any miniature replicas of large, globe-hefting statues?
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I think you'll be safe - as long as you have a dormant volcano nearby to do some soul searching... and three ladies on the go... and have recently escaped a bad S&M scenario with a 3000+ year old healer...
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My apologies for this but I hope noone will mind too much if I ask this here : Why is the pattern putting Galad and Berelain together? I ask because of possible political ramifications.

Berelain is a descendant of Hawkwing. By rights, she may have as strong a claim to the throne as Tuon, even if she can't enforce her claim. But if she marries Galad, who has claim to both the throne of andor and Cairhien, she would have a stake in these two nations that Tuon would have to acknowledge one way or another.

If Tuon kills Berelain, it ends one problem brings up others such as loss of face and the possibility of Hawkwing's line becoming extinct if Tuon dies before she has any children.

If she doesn't kill the wench, she can't sit back and watch one of the blood (no family) being mocked because it would reflect on her. Badly! by right of birth, Berelain can be considered probably second to Tuon now in seanchan heirachy.

Attacking lands belonging to Berelain would be frowned on because it would no longer be seen as part of the war to reclaim lost lands.

But I'm going to far with this, I don't recall Tylee mentioning Berelain in her report. Thoughts?
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My apologies for this but I hope noone will mind too much if I ask this here : Why is the pattern putting Galad and Berelain together? I ask because of possible political ramifications.

Berelain is a descendant of Hawkwing. By rights, she may have as strong a claim to the throne as Tuon, even if she can't enforce her claim. But if she marries Galad, who has claim to both the throne of andor and Cairhien, she would have a stake in these two nations that Tuon would have to acknowledge one way or another.

If Tuon kills Berelain, it ends one problem brings up others such as loss of face and the possibility of Hawkwing's line becoming extinct if Tuon dies before she has any children.

If she doesn't kill the wench, she can't sit back and watch one of the blood (no family) being mocked because it would reflect on her. Badly! by right of birth, Berelain can be considered probably second to Tuon now in seanchan heirachy.

Attacking lands belonging to Berelain would be frowned on because it would no longer be seen as part of the war to reclaim lost lands.

But I'm going to far with this, I don't recall Tylee mentioning Berelain in her report. Thoughts?
A better question might be "Why was RJ foolish enough to allow the Pattern to have any influence on love stories?"
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They are the hottest persons alive (Lanfear's old body is gone). Is that not a good enough reason? Think of their children. The Pattern wants to raise the beauty standards in Randland.
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Galad Damodred might end up Elayne's Steward in Cairhien. And so, Berelain's marriage would give Mayne access to the strongest nation bordering Tear; and thus might quench Tear's hunger to annex Mayne.

That was on the political front; but on a much less simple plane, Galad is Berelain's reward for being faithful to Rand and Perrin. Seeing beyond her "Perrin attempt," she has been one of the few people who have been genuinely loyal to Rand ..... like Rhuarc, Dobraine, Bashere, et. al.
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That was on the political front; but on a much less simple plane, Galad is Berelain's reward for being faithful to Rand and Perrin. Seeing beyond her "Perrin attempt," she has been one of the few people who have been genuinely loyal to Rand ..... like Rhuarc, Dobraine, Bashere, et. al.
Considering the stupid way Faile acted towards Berelain in the Stone, the "Perrin attempt" is exactly what she [Faile] deserved.
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Except for that little fact that Berelain in all likelihood has not a drop of Hawkwing's blood in her. It was a scam that Mayene proposed and is not taken seriously outside of their borders.
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Um, no, it's not a scam. Her family is most likely descended from Hawkwing via the daughter that he sent to Shara.
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Shrug. Realized I read that most recently off of Wot Wiki. Yet another thing they have wrong?

http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Tyrn_sur_Paendrag_Mashera

Edit: It used to also say the claim was not taken seriously outside of Mayene but I guess it has been edited...still it is odd Tyrn didn't make a claim for the empire if he was legit. The manner in which he showed up at least casts a hint of question on his true identity..
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Considering the stupid way Faile acted towards Berelain in the Stone, the "Perrin attempt" is exactly what she [Faile] deserved.
Agreed that Faile deserved Berelain; but in the end, Perrin's flaw was Faile; and she ended up winning. And Faile, after her rescue, acknowledged Berelain's contributions to her rescue so much that she threatened her.

One of the grinding themes of WoT is that the savior/rescuer always gets upbraided. How that grates?
 


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