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Old 04-05-2012, 05:05 PM
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Default Is the Wheel of Time Racist?

Plain and simple.

There are no black heroes in the series at all. The only time black people even appear are as villains (especially evil villains at that): Semirhage, Toun (haha, nice try whity, making a black woman a slave owner?), etc.

Look at the Aiel. What a convenient way to replace native american/middle eastern cultures with more white people.

The "best" country is white-only: Andor.

The only non-white cultures, Tear, Illian, Ebou Dar, are portrayed as weird, ignorant, and silly. Also they are conquered by a whiteman, of course.

There are almost no black channellers, except Semirhage and every single one of the powerful channellers are all white....
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Uh....have you heard of the Sea Folk?. Try a re-read before posting in such an inflammatory manner.

Your assumption that the Seanchan are all seen as villains indicates you don't understand the depth of many of the characters.

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Whatever. I mean, c'mon, it's got someone named the Dark One in there.
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Uh....have you heard of the Sea Folk?. Try a re-read before posting in such an inflammatory manner.

Your assumption that the Seanchan are all seen as villains indicates you don't understand the depth of many of the characters.

Edited to add:

Cairheins = olive skin
Taeiriens = dark skinned
Domains= coppery
Seanchan = skin tones of light to dark
You're completely right, despite the fact that "Seanchan" and "Sea Folk" are the only nationality that you spelled correctly.

Cairhienens, Tairens, Domani.

The Sea Folk and some of the Seanchan are dark-skinned like RW Africans. The Domani are based largely on Egyptians, the Cairhienen are also based on southern Europeans/Middle Easterners/south Asians, etc.

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I love that line about how the Aiel are just "more white people". Because oppression, bullying, and ridicule are not things people with red hair experience at all...
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I love that line about how the Aiel are just "more white people". Because oppression, bullying, and ridicule are not things people with red hair experience at all...
Oh c'mon, how many people do you think are really gonna sit there and tell an Aielman or a Maiden that "Gingers have no souls"?
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Oh c'mon, how many people do you think are really gonna sit there and tell an Aielman or a Maiden that "Gingers have no souls"?
That's the point. The Aiel are empowering to real world ginger readers.
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You're ignoring the (sexist) elephant in the room to go after the (racist) poodle?

Regional considerations aside, there are races other than black and white in this fiction and irl.

Totally share your hatred of Andor though.
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You're completely right, despite the fact that "Seanchan" and "Sea Folk" are the only nationality that you spelled correctly.

Cairhienens, Tairens, Domani.
Cairhienin. Also plural Cairhienin.
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The only non-white cultures, Tear, Illian, Ebou Dar, are portrayed as weird, ignorant, and silly. Also they are conquered by a whiteman, of course.
Didn't know Tuon was a "whiteman." Someone should tell Mat
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You're completely right, despite the fact that "Seanchan" and "Sea Folk" are the only nationality that you spelled correctly.

Cairhienens, Tairens, Domani.

The Sea Folk and some of the Seanchan are dark-skinned like RW Africans. The Domani are based largely on Egyptians, the Cairhienen are also based on southern Europeans/Middle Easterners/south Asians, etc.
Whatever Seth. I am typing on an iPad, FORGIVE ME as my post is obviously the most disturbing part of this, right?
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Whatever Seth. I am typing on an iPad, FORGIVE ME as my post is obviously the most disturbing part of this, right?
Duh. You should be able to spell impeccably, no matter what piece of technology you are using to communicate. Everybody knows that.
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Uh....have you heard of the Sea Folk?. Try a re-read before posting in such an inflammatory manner.

Your assumption that the Seanchan are all seen as villains indicates you don't understand the depth of many of the characters.

Edited to add:

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The Sea Folk are never portrayed in a positive light and they aren't very useful at all.

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All of them. Not a single one gives equal rights to Trollocs.

-Trollocs are not allowed to walk around in most towns after dark.
-Trollocs may not attend the same schools humans do.
-If a Trolloc pays too much attention to a 'decent' woman, he is likely to get lynched.
-Trollocs aren't allowed to serve in the same military units as humans do.
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All of them. Not a single one gives equal rights to Trollocs.

-Trollocs are not allowed to walk around in most towns after dark.
-Trollocs may not attend the same schools humans do.
-If a Trolloc pays too much attention to a 'decent' woman, he is likely to get lynched.
-Trollocs aren't allowed to serve in the same military units as humans do.
tried to rep you, for derailing this absurd thread (bonus since you didn't instigate it in the first place )
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Wait a minute? Semirhage is black? That makes me hate her even more!

If only Egwene was black...


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