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I've been thinking a lot, in general, about the motif of eyes in the series, and trying to come up with something worthwhile from it. It may eventually prove to be a theory, or possibly an essay, but in order to get some ideas together coherently, I thought it would be a good idea to start a thread to discuss the topic.

There can be no doubt that eyes are important in the Wheel Of Time series. There are numerous examples of eyes being mentioned in connection with Light. Here are a few I can think of:
  • In TEOTW, The Dark One "means to blind the eye of the world".
  • The Aiel refer to the Dark One as "sightblinder".
  • Mat gives up "half the light of the world to save the world" by sacrificing his eye; this is foretold by a Dream of Egwene's in which he places his eye on a balance scale
  • Myrddraal, the representatives of the Shadow, have no eyes; "the look of the eyeless is fear"; the Dark One's representative in the world, Shaidar Haran, is a Myrddraal.
  • Seanchan refer to those who have lost status as "lowered eyes".
  • Rand mentions the importance of eyes in TSR when discussing Hadnan Kadere and his party with Mat; the party includes Lanfear.
  • In TOM, when confronting Darkfriends among his allies, they are unable to meet Rand's eyes; whether this is a new power or a result of a tip-off from Verin, it remains an example of the importance of eyes.
  • Carrion-eaters are said to be the Dark One's eyes.
  • The highest or lowest hand in dice games played by Matrim Cauthon and others is called "The Dark One's Eyes.
  • The Aes Sedai employ networks of informers known as "eyes and ears".

I find it interesting that eyes as a topic appear to have been a little overlooked by the community; 13th Depository has a page on the symbolism of "hands" but not of eyes.

In a real world sense, "the eyes are the window to the soul" is a common saying, and this is borne out by the inability of darkfriends to meet Rand Sedai's eyes; there are also specific associations of eyes with the concept of light.

As I said above, I'm unsure of where exactly I intend to go with this, so I'm throwing it out there to get ideas and inputs. Are there examples I've missed? What does it all mean? Will the final confrontation between Rand and the DO be a staring match?
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Good one. Actually very interesting indeed, when you compare that with "gold" as a colour associated with light (e.g. "Veins of Gold"), perhaps marking Perrin, Elyas, wolves and wolfbrothers as agents of the light.
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And the DF lord at Maradon ripped out his own eyes
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You need eyes to see the light. Without eyes there's only darkness.

And the DF lord at Maradon ripped out his own eyes
Another good one, and yeah, that does seem to be the overall theme. I'm just wondering whether it's something that might grow a theory, or more suited to an academic essay.

Finding the examples might help us work out what's going on with one of Rand's "new powers" (if that it be), I suppose.
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I think Muradin ripped his eyes out while in the glass columns of Rhuidean, rather than see the true history of his people.
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I think Muradin ripped his eyes out while in the glass columns of Rhuidean, rather than see the true history of his people.
Interesting, because that's eyes being used to avoid truth. It seems to associate truth with the light given the associations we've seen already.
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I had an idea many years ago about Darkfriends and losing an eye. There are a bit too many one eyed characters in the books. I was mocked at the time. Given the 'ol stink eye if I recall.
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I had an idea many years ago about Darkfriends and losing an eye. There are a bit too many one eyed characters in the books. I was mocked at the time. Given the 'ol stink eye if I recall.
Possibly a tie-in to the Dark Mat theory-ling? "In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." Of course, that just makes me think of the eye of Sauron.
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Possibly a tie-in to the Dark Mat theory-ling? "In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." Of course, that just makes me think of the eye of Sauron.
There's the idea of the saa from using too much of the True Power. And the absence of eyes, instead their being caverns of fire with Ishy prior to his Moridin-izing.
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Interesting, because that's eyes being used to avoid truth. It seems to associate truth with the light given the associations we've seen already.
Muradin is also a literal example of "Not believing his own eyes."
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The Eye of the World.
It's been mentioned.
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Perhaps the strangest of all known ter'angreal are two tall redstone doorways, similar to yet different from each other in form and function, which do not require the user to be a channeler. Each stands independent of any supporting structure and is twisted strangely so that the eye keeps slipping away from the contour of its shape. One of these, decorated with three sinuous lines that run from top to bottom on each upright, resides in the Stone of Tear. Anyone passing through it enters a strange world where he or she is allowed to ask three questions and receive truthful answers. By an ancient compact with the inhabitants of the other side, no lamps, torches, items made of iron, or musical instruments are allowed within.
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The members of the Imperial family and of the Blood also seldom speak directly to anyone of lesser rank than themselves, save to bestow an immense honor upon them. Most communication is done through a “Voice,” a servant, usually hereditary, who actually speaks for his/her master or mistress. The Voice receives instructions through a variety of subtle nonverbal gestures from the master. It is forbidden for a person of lesser rank to make eye contact with one of greater. Even the Voice must never look the master directly in the eye while watching for signals or commands.
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I realised earlier that the blind Rand prophecies were a certain example of just the kind of conceit I'm getting at. That is, if they're unfulfilled. After all, a blind man who could previously see would have only a memory of light.
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You know, I could make a similar argument for breasts being pivotal to the last battle, based on how often they are mentioned.
Name one example of breasts being important in prophecy or associated with light or shadow. It's about symbolism, and like I said, I'm not at the stage where it's a theory or even an essay yet. There might well be scope for an essay about breasts in the WOT series, though; they're obviously important.
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