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I was driving to a job interview today (2 x ~430 km) and had a lot of listening time for KoD.

I have always thought that RJ became very boob oriented in this book.
I realised though that is probably because Mat has a lot of POVs compared to other books.

As soon as Mat meets women he first evaluates their breasts in comparison to other women.
It is almost an unconscious act.
As soon that he see a woman his eyes goes directly to their bosom.
It is a high rate of women who is described in the infamous way (arms folded beneath the breasts) when it's a Mat POV compared to other POVs.

When you compare it with Rand.
He almost never fixates on Cadsuane's or Alivia's funbags (struggling to come up with new words).

The funny part is of course when Mat gets irritated of Olvers ogling of womens breasts and wonders who has the bad influence on him.
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When you compare it with Rand.
He almost never fixates on Cadsuane's or Alivia's funbags (struggling to come up with new words).
Not the word usage that comes to mind in reference to Cadsuane, no matter their size comparison.

But yes, I imagine Mat's personality does focus more on these than Rand or Perrin (or the girls).
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I think it's because breasts are more PC to discuss than other parts. Can you imagine the outcry if Perrin turned out to be an assman?
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Can you imagine the outcry if Perrin turned out to be an assman?
Faile folder her arms under her ...

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Rand is always looking at the sway of Min's hips




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I don't think RJ was an assman. All the supergirls have larger-than-average breasts and more-slender-than-average hips. You can tell by the borrowed dresses.
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RJ obviously had a very complicated view of ass vs breasts. During the raising ceremony, every AS standing for the Amyrlin has to prove they have breasts. On the other hand, he named his group of male channellers the "ass-ha-man". Obviously his intention here was to state that the male and female channellers had separate goals that were nonetheless embodied in the same form, as it were.
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Rand is always looking at the sway of Min's hips

just saying.
Yeah Rand looks at the woman he loves and find her attractive.
He does not leer at every woman he meets.

Mat does, more or less.
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He does not leer at every woman he meets.

Mat does, more or less.
So does LTT, of course. Who, according to some, is Rand.
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Yeah Rand looks at the woman he loves and find her attractive.
He does not leer at every woman he meets.

Mat does, more or less.
lol, believe me, Mat's letchery ways are probably the least among his many, many, and I repeat: many character flaws.
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lol, believe me, Mat's letchery ways are probably the least among his many, many, and I repeat: many character flaws.
Flaws? He's a 20 something year old guy, this is 100% normal. He just happens to be a breast guy while Rand tends to like a little more junk in the trunk and Perrin likes, um, well skinny big nosed women that verbally abuse him.
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Flaws? He's a 20 something year old guy, this is 100% normal. He just happens to be a breast guy while Rand tends to like a little more junk in the trunk and Perrin likes, um, well skinny big nosed women that verbally abuse him.
as I said, his letchery ways are probably the least obnoxious bits about him as a character.
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Yeah Rand looks at the woman he loves and find her attractive.
He does not leer at every woman he meets.

Mat does, more or less.
Rand also thinks its okay to date and sleep with 3 women at the same time...I think on the lechery scale, that ranks up above casually checking out women you meet with a passing glance.
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Rand also thinks its okay to date and sleep with 3 women at the same time...I think on the lechery scale, that ranks up above casually checking out women you meet with a passing glance.
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Rand also thinks its okay to date and sleep with 3 women at the same time...I think on the lechery scale, that ranks up above casually checking out women you meet with a passing glance.
I'm not sure I'd call what Mat does 'casually checking out...with a passing glance', but I agree it ranks lower on the scale than bouncing around with 3 women at the same time with serious hopes/intentions with all of them.
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nothing wrong with this, I find it more suspicious that there is a lot of staring at ankles and ears...
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I'm not sure I'd call what Mat does 'casually checking out...with a passing glance', but I agree it ranks lower on the scale than bouncing around with 3 women at the same time with serious hopes/intentions with all of them.
How is it not? He meets a female, checks her out and moves on with his life. He's a 21-22 year old guy...this is what 99.9% of heterosexual guys do at that age.
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nothing wrong with this, I find it more suspicious that there is a lot of staring at ankles and ears...
That depends on whatever is considered attractive by a culture. People are weird anyone, and on the topic of sex they often get weird deliberately. Small wonder that results in strange (to us) fetishes.
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Personally, I'm more disturbed by Nynaeve's ogling of Valan Luca's calves...guess she's a leg-woman.

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