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I was reading EotW last night and came across one of my favorite bits in the books...the story of Manetheren, the stand of Aemon and his men and the anger and retaliation of Eldrene against the Myrddraal (did she use balefire???) I became ENTHRALLED with the characters, the history, the emotion during that bit when I first read it; it is one of the things that solidified for me that I would enjoy the book.

When you compare that part of the book to the rest of the series there is a distinct difference in the "voice" Moiraine uses. Her storytelling is almost odd there in retrospect; I would have expected it more from Thom than Moir once you get to know the characters better.

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my absolute favourite bit is when Egwene reforms the WT. The first step when she declares war and just... takes over. Then, when she's held prisoner, then the battle (which was EPIC) and lastly putting in place that whenever the Hall sits, there should be notifications and designated replacements - that's a significant change for AS!

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I can clearly remember the first time reading the story of Shaiel and thinking to myself that *this* was why I read WoT. That story, that revelation to Rand is still one of my favourites.
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Moiraine's tale of Manetheren feels different because the author is laying out the theme of the book and the series as a whole. It's more his voice than hers. Those pages sum up the stakes, the emotion and the inevitable fate that awaits the world. Aside from being awesome on its own, it is where Rand and friends draw their resolve from throughout the book, giving it further importance. It is clearly a highlight of Book 1.

In my current book, The Path of Daggers, I read about the morning Elayne wakes after testing ter'angreal with no memory of what she did over the last eight hours, and no one willing to tell her over their smiles. Little bits like that add so much life and wonder to the story.
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Favorite book - A Crown of Swords - So intense!
Favorite Arc - Siuan's evolution. I adore her POV's.
Favorite Character - Min duh.
Least Favorite Character - Egwene Egwene EGWENE! Please oh please oh please let this miserable, annoying worthless character perish. Thank you.
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Favorite of Rand's trio: Aviendha
Favorite support hero: Thom Merrilin
Favorite Aes Sedai: Moiraine and Siuan (tie)
Favorite couple: Rand - Aviendha (best written of Rand's four romances)
Favorite ruler: Fortuona - trained to rule a continent and can hold her ground against the best of them
Favorite Maiden of the Spear: Sulin
Favorite Aiel Clan Chief: Bael - leads a clan, fights in battles, marries, and still having children!
Favorite Great Captain: Rodel Ituralde
Favorite Ashaman: Narishma and Logain (tie)
Favorite Warder: Alric (would have loved to get to know him better)
Favorite Randland monarch: Darlin of Tear
Favorite Aiel Wise One: Bair - cannot channel but so strong
Favorite battle scene: Battle of Cairhien (Rand and Mat parts combined)
Favorite Foresaken: Lanfear
Favorite Trolloc: Narg!!!!!!
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Favorite Book: Knife of Dreams
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Favorite couple: Rand - Aviendha (best written of Rand's four romances)
Technically speaking, Rand had more than four romances (to varying degrees, of course :P)!

Egwene
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Technically speaking, Rand had more than four romances (to varying degrees, of course :P)!

Egwene
Aviendha
Elmindreda
Elayne
Lanfear
Selande
Berelain
Gotta disagree with you. He traumatized Selande with his "madness" tactic to a degree that she seems to have forgotten about seduction and prefers to run around doing Faile's bidding.

And he never had a relationship with Berelain. He scared her out of her wits when he fought his reflection in the mirror. After that, she was his Stewardess in Cairhien for a while; but nothing romantic.

He had a crush on Selene in TGH; but nothing that can be called a romance.

Lanfear is LTT's, not Rand's, former mistress. Rand had the romance button turned off when he met her. Only his ToM epilogue dream hints at "desire" when he dreams of Mierin.

Anyway, I read Rand as having 4 romantic relationships in WoT so far: Aviendha, Min, Elayne, and Egwene.
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Egwene
Aviendha
Elmindreda
Elayne
Lanfear
Selande
Berelain
Poor Else, always getting ignored.

Selande probably doesn't count, though, I agree with MS*.

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Selande probably doesn't count, though, I agree with MS*.

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Gotta disagree with you. He traumatized Selande with his "madness" tactic to a degree that she seems to have forgotten about seduction and prefers to run around doing Faile's bidding.

And he never had a relationship with Berelain. He scared her out of her wits when he fought his reflection in the mirror. After that, she was his Stewardess in Cairhien for a while; but nothing romantic.

He had a crush on Selene in TGH; but nothing that can be called a romance.

Lanfear is LTT's, not Rand's, former mistress. Rand had the romance button turned off when he met her. Only his ToM epilogue dream hints at "desire" when he dreams of Mierin.

Anyway, I read Rand as having 4 romantic relationships in WoT so far: Aviendha, Min, Elayne, and Egwene.
Well if you want to be picky about it, and please realize I'm not really being picky :P, he hasn't really been in a romantic relationship with Elayne or Aviendha either. 4 days in Tear, followed by 2 diametrically opposed letters and that one night with Elayne. A love-hate relationship followed by the Far Snows, follwed by the same love-hate with Aviendha until they reunited in Caemlyn. And while he is bonded to them now, he still has hardly spent time with any of them.

Forgot about poor Else. Whoops.
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Well if you want to be picky about it, and please realize I'm not really being picky :P, he hasn't really been in a romantic relationship with Elayne or Aviendha either. 4 days in Tear, followed by 2 diametrically opposed letters and that one night with Elayne. A love-hate relationship followed by the Far Snows, follwed by the same love-hate with Aviendha until they reunited in Caemlyn. And while he is bonded to them now, he still has hardly spent time with any of them.

Forgot about poor Else. Whoops.
It is good that we're not being picky about this Why don't we take Rand's word for it? Who does he say he's in love with? And who says, in return, that she's in love with him?

Currently, only Aviendha, Min, and Elayne fit. And prior to them, there was Egwene.
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Favorite Secondary Character-Tuon, especially when she and Mat start going at it.

Favorite Arc-Mat and Tuon traveling with Luca's show. Some great momenets there.

Favorite Super Girl-Nynaeve, although bossy and arrogant for a while, her one constant is that what she did, she always did for others, mainly Lan and the other Two Rivers folk.

Least Favorite Protagonist-Egwene followed by Gawyn. Eggy ALWAYS seems to have things go her way some how, even having an Aes Sedai of nearly 50 years all of a sudden go stupid so that Eggy would look brilliant. And Gawyn, well, a good fighter yes, a good thinker? No, no he is not.

Favorite Forsaken-Lanfear. Although certainly not an ally of the Light, she only joined the Dark One to gain power, and power is what she craves.

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Favourite part: Battle of Cairhien
Favourite arc: Mat's travelling with Tuon ending by the "rescue" from Furyk.
Other favourite part: Rand's confrontation with Egwene in the White Tower.
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I am hopeful his role is explained in detail in the final book and he doesn't just *poof* die offscreen. Quite honestly I see him as the manifestation of Theoryland...the one who ferrets out little nuggets of info, the one who figures out this bit and that, then ties it all back together and reports. He is untrusting until you prove yourself, he can be quiet, stealthy, useful, spiteful. I like this little man and truly want him to survive. And not turn out to be evil incarnate.
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