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OK, people. The tour is on. I'm sure some of you have been there - what are the details from the Q&A? Your own questions to Brandon? etc.

I suppose that spoilers for AMOL should be in tags for this thread, but whatever the mods feel is best.
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Yeah, I was just wondering where the reports have been. All we've gotten has been on Twitter, and really Twitter is a horrible way to do a signing report. We've already seen some garbled stuff from the midnight signing, and the guy who was live-tweeting Minneapolis didn't specify who was answering the questions. He tagged Brandon, but from the context it was clearly Harriet...
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Yeah, I was just wondering where the reports have been. All we've gotten has been on Twitter, and really Twitter is a horrible way to do a signing report. We've already seen some garbled stuff from the midnight signing, and the guy who was live-tweeting Minneapolis didn't specify who was answering the questions. He tagged Brandon, but from the context it was clearly Harriet...
I didn't even find them on Twitter. Kept watch on #AMOL and #WOT but got nothing of worth so far.
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Try @midnightrelease and @grantosan. Bossman said there was lots of video at the midnight release, but I was worried it wouldn't get posted for months. Fortunately I just got word from a friend that he has video. He's having issues with his computer, though...and he's not done reading. In any case, he'll probably get it up soon enough for me. Marie will probably record tonight's Q&A in Chicago (Skokie).
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whatever happened to all the live streaming of Q&A. I remember setting that up for the TGS tour back when I was a Storm Leader.
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I saw a live stream post for the midnight release...after the fact. So apparently it was streamed, but not recorded from the stream.
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Try @midnightrelease and @grantosan. Bossman said there was lots of video at the midnight release, but I was worried it wouldn't get posted for months. Fortunately I just got word from a friend that he has video. He's having issues with his computer, though...and he's not done reading. In any case, he'll probably get it up soon enough for me. Marie will probably record tonight's Q&A in Chicago (Skokie).
It will be great. I'd hate that we lose any of that or get garbled reports.

For e.g.: apparently Brandon has confirmed all the epilogue, not just the last scene, came from RJ.

But how reliable is this?

Thankfully there's a second branch to the tour. The first days after release are always hectic... we didn't get that many good answers when Brandon/Harriet still consider most of them spoilers...
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Yeah, I'll be going to one on Feb. 24 in Birmingham. If I can get my mom to keep her mouth shut I might get to ask some questions, but more likely she'll want to tell Brandon and Harriet my life story or something, and I won't get anything.

Also, we know how reliable the 'whole epilogue' bit is, because we know from Brandon direct that he had to modify all that epilogue stuff RJ left, and we know from Peter that he added at least one scene (Cadsuane). I suspect he was talking about 'the last scene' from what my friend told me; the language was the same as he uses when talking about 'the last scene'.
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Inbrandons blog he is referring to the entire epilogue as being rj's. ( with minor tweaks).
Unless minr tweak is adding the cadsuane scene.
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And recently he spoke of "minor tweaks" for RJ's epilogue being essentially language tweaks (suggesting he worked from dictations).

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nd yet, I'd read the ending. We managed to get it into the final book virtually unchanged, with only a few minor tweaks here and there. The sequence (it is more than one scene) that I am referring to most of the time when I talk about this encompasses the entire epilogue of A Memory of Light. Once you get there, you can know you're reading Robert Jordan's words, though of course there are other scenes scattered through the book that he worked on too.
Oh well... someone will manage to get the details on the changes out of him sooner or later (did he invent Cadsuane's scene, or decided it was the right place to put her resolution from the notes, that "obviously" RJ planned to place it somewhere before the epilogue and didn't specify where, but Brandon decided it fitted better in the epilogue).

It's part of the usual frustrations with tours/Q&A, it often takes several attempts to get something really reliable - that and the fact the same questions already answered are asked again and again. Well, that's expected, just frustrating for hcffs.

This time around we can come up with so many relevant questions and can hope to get good, less evasive answers to some, so it's a bit more frustrating than usual that it takes a few attempts, or that it's already answered reliably and we don't know yet.

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I wouldn't read too much into the wording there. Brandon has shown himself willing to be extremely misleading, and that statement is still pretty ambiguous. I have no doubt that most of the epilogue was written by RJ, but clearly not all of it was.
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We also have Peter (who is probably reading this...hi, Peter!) saying that:

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What Brandon was given from RJ specifically on the last three books was 200 manuscript pages containing some finished scenes (including the final scene) and some summaries of other scenes, some lines of dialogue here and there, some "I might do this, or I might do this," etc. It's definitely not the last 120 pages of the book.
My guess is that RJ wrote the final Rand POV and parts/summaries of the other POVs in the epilogue.
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We also have Peter (who is probably reading this...hi, Peter!) saying that:



My guess is that RJ wrote the final Rand POV and parts/summaries of the other POVs in the epilogue.
Yeah, it sounds likely some of those scenes could go in with only minor tweaks, and others were so succinct descriptions Brandon expanded them to get the final scenes.

E.g. Brandon might have had something like "and as Cadsuane notices Rand leaving, Sitters corner her and tells her they chose her as Amyrlin."
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I got a reply on FB. I am not able to copy on my ipad, so i post the link.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/brando...f_t=note_reply

The cads scene was brandon. It's not literary said that the fate came from the notes, but it was implied.
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What was implied is that they're not going to tell you if it was in the notes or not.
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Emma: Team Jordan said I could say that Brandon himself wrote the words of that little scene. Brandon is still being closedmouthed about what specifically came from the notes, but in general, Robert Jordan left quite a few notes on where people ended up at the end of the book.
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Thank you, Peter Ahlstrom! I laughed learning about Cads fate. It was something RJ could have come up with.So good job Brandon putting in her implied fate Am i right to assume that her implied fate wouldnt have been put in,if the notes say something different?( assuming there were notes on it)
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What was implied is that they're not going to tell you if it was in the notes or not.
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All that means is that they weren't contradicted. And knowing Peter, you shouldn't read anything more into it than exactly that. As I said, it's not a given from the scene that Cadsuane will become Amyrlin, so if RJ's notes say that she went to retire to her rose gardens, then the scene wouldn't contradict that. If RJ didn't leave any particular notes on what Cadsuane does after the Last Battle at all, still no contradiction.
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Yes, if rj didnt leave any notes on who became amyrlin and if he didnt write down cads fate, than it wouldnt be a contradiction.
If she would go to her rose gardens, than yes it would be a contradiction.
Since amyrlin is her implied fate.
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Yes, if rj didnt leave any notes on who became amyrlin and if he didnt write down cads fate, than it wouldnt be a contradiction.
If she would go to her rose gardens, than yes it would be a contradiction.
Since amyrlin is her implied fate.
That's what you said. It's not what Peter said.

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He didn't answer your question so much as he rephrased it into something he was willing to say.
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