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REE filed suit against Harriet for defamation due to her comments concerning the "Pilot"

http://www.law360.com/ip/articles/62...-in-rights-row

According to the article, Universals rights expired before REE's and they had met with Harriett as late as last year.
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Wow. Talk about shooting themselves more in the foot.

Anyone who could get the whole article in here? Cba to register on the site to see the whole thing.
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Law360, San Diego (February 12, 2015, 8:08 PM ET) -- The producers of a TV adaptation of Robert Jordan’s “Wheel of Time” fantasy book series accused the author’s widow of slander on Thursday in California federal court, alleging she publicly ridiculed the pilot that aired days before the producers’ rights were set to expire.

Red Eagle Entertainment LLC’s 30-minute pilot for the series aired on FXX in the early hours of Feb. 9, at 1:30 a.m. EST, and was quickly derided by fans and writers for its low-budget special effects, slow pacing and stilted acting. Red Eagle’s rights to the series would have expired on Feb. 11 if it hadn’t aired anything.

Jordan’s widow Harriet McDougal released a statement Monday distancing herself from the pilot. She claimed that her company Bandersnatch Group Inc., which is Jordan’s successor in interest, had a deal with Universal Pictures to produce the show, not Red Eagle.

“I see no mention of Universal in the ‘pilot,’” she wrote. “Nor, I repeat, was Bandersnatch, or Robert Jordan's estate, informed of this in any way. I am dumbfounded by this occurrence, and am taking steps to prevent its reoccurrence.”

Red Eagle alleges that it granted some rights to Universal but they reverted back to Red Eagle last year. McDougal knew Universal was no longer involved because she and her lawyers were told about the rights change, according to the suit. Her statement was meant to disparage the show and cast doubt on Red Eagle’s legal ability to produce the pilot, the company alleged.

“Instead of confirming the rights for which she has been so richly compensated for, McDougal sought to harm the business prospects of [Red Eagle] by making statements she knew to be false,” Red Eagle said.

Red Eagle’s dealing with Jordan dates back to 2004, when a subsidiary paid Jordan $35,000 for a one-year option to buy movie and TV rights for the first of 15 books in the “Wheel of Time” series. The company eventually paid another $595,000 to extend the option and buy the rights, which would revert back to Bandersnatch if nothing came of the deal, according to the complaint.

The subsidiary, Manetheren LLC, signed a separate deal with Universal in 2009, giving it an interest in making films or a TV show based on the book, but the rights came back to Manetheren in February 2014 because Universal hadn’t started shooting by then, the complaint said.

McDougal was invited last year to a series of meetings between Manetheren, Sony Pictures Television and Radar Pictures LLC about a possible TV series and offered to serve as a consultant, according to the suit. Red Eagle claims McDougal never raised any concerns about Manetheren’s rights to go ahead with the show.

Manetheren further claims McDougal breached a 2008 deal over comic book rights, with both sides agreeing not to make any negative or contentious public statements about each other. And contrary to McDougal’s released statement, Manetheren was not required to get her approval before releasing the show, the producers said.

Representatives for the parties did not immediately respond Thursday to requests for comment.

Red Eagle is represented by Jonathan D. Freund and Stephen P. Crump of Freund & Brackey LLP.

Counsel information for the defendants was not immediately available.

The case is Red Eagle Entertainment LLC et al. v. Bandersnatch Group Inc. et al., case number 2:15-cv-01038, in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California.

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I have to wonder what Harriet was thinking when she claimed her contract was with Universal. It was contrary to public record so I was thinking maybe there was something we didn't know. I doubt she lied about it on purpose.
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I have to wonder what Harriet was thinking when she claimed her contract was with Universal. It was contrary to public record so I was thinking maybe there was something we didn't know. I doubt she lied about it on purpose.
Confusion on the part of an older, stressed out woman? I mean, she is 75 after all.

That'd be my guess.
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Confusion on the part of an older, stressed out woman? I mean, she is 75 after all.

That'd be my guess.
That and how muddled the management of the rights has been.

Sorry about two posts; quoting is... interesting... on my phone.

Edit: less likely age and more likely utter shock at their disrespect.
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Given the right p.r. spin on it, i personally hope that if nothing else come of this snafu, that at the very least it generates interest and a much larger WOT fanbase.
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I must say, I would add fan community unity to that... I've never seen them this universally pissed.
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What an assholes...........

Anything we can do to help?
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Aside from theorizing what's gonna happen? Doubt there's much we can do.
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I'm reading the full complaint now. It's interesting...
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Wow. For one thing, the part about the legality of the pilot had hardly anything to do with the damage to REE's reputation. That was achieved years ago by their complete inaction. Nor did Harriet have to say anything at all to make the fans realize this pilot was a piece of crap.

Still, I hope there was some genuine confusion about the rights. I, too, doubt Harriet just lied.

That said, REE clearly doesn't know how to handle PR does it? This is only likely to make everyone hate them more. Idiots.
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I mean, on one level, I would say that if the Rigney's did sell the rights, they really cant complain too much about REE making a crappy pilot to keep them. Its shady of course but its not exactly rare in the industry. That's the reason we get crappy Spiderman movies every so often so Sony didnt have to give up the rights to the character.

Of course, Disney just gave them a eleventy quadrillion dollars to get Spidey back for the final 2 Avengers movies.

Still, this lawsuit is just complete dickihood by them.
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It's more than just money, I guess. REE are making it impossible for a good show to be made of the books. They've basically destroyed the franchise over and over with their incompetence.
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Yeah but they did pay for those rights. I mean, part of that blame lies with them selling it to REE in the first place.
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It sounds like Harriet may have misunderstood who had the rights and when. I'm not sure why her lawyer was unaware.
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...-at-130-773110

Hollywood Reported gets into the action.

Also, I'm reading in some places that Red Eagle no longer even exists as a business entity since it failed to meet tax requirements! Anyone know if this is true? This seems like the last flail of a doomed company.

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It sounds like Harriet may have misunderstood who had the rights and when. I'm not sure why her lawyer was unaware.
I'm imagining this terrible scenario where her lawyer is older than she is, and an old friend. I hope that's not what's going on.
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