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Old 03-29-2015, 04:45 PM
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So I'm already up to ACoS on my reread. Yeah, I had three big(ish) questions on TGH then blew through everything else without noticing anything major. Oh sure, I've seen some "Hmmm, that's interesting. Hmmm, I'll bet that connects over there. Hmmm, I'll make a note of that to watch the progression," but I've yet to have a big "AHA!" moment.
Am I missing something? Or are there actually fewer big mysteries and unanswered questions than I had assumed?

To that end: What is your biggest unanswered question? What do you most want the answer to? Or what do you think is the biggest "plot point" still open you think needs an answer?

Mine is easy, and also the only one I can think of off the top of my head:
VERIN!

I freely admit this is because she is, by far, my favorite secondary character; both from a fan viewpoint and as a literary critique. I mean, how assume is it that RJ created a situation wherein there were diametrically opposed theories about her. Right up until her big reveal, it was equally possible and credible she was Black or Purple. She was so intriguing, so mysteries, so interesting, that she spawned the idea of an entirely new and otherwise unsubstantiated group. (Add that to the list of disappointingly debunked theories.)
I would LOVE a Verin POV short story. So many unanswered questions. How did she end up BA? How did she walk that razor's edge of following her dark oaths while still aiding the Light; and not managing to get herself killed? But of course biggest of all: DID SHE LIVE?! She seemed to think there was a chance, but how?!
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What were the three questions that Moiraine asked the Finn?

That's the only real one, though there were two unresolved issues that annoyed me:

- What ever happened to Logain's glory?

- How did Narishma "follow after"?
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Verin did not live. She thought there would be a chance if she could get the Oath Rod, but it had been taken away by the BA-hunters. It may not have worked anyway, since it would have been an act that would facilitate betraying the Dark One. I suspect the Oaths would have tripped her up.
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The Follow After thing I think was just lost in the untimely death of RJ.

But it bugs me.

Moirain's questions is a good one.

Logain's glory is the Sealbreaker and leader of the Black Tower, pretty sure he is not going by M'Hael!

A Verin short story would be cool.
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What the heck did Lanfear do for the Shadow after she was freed from being Sealed? What, especially, did she do as Cyndane for the Shadow?
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What the heck did Lanfear do for the Shadow after she was freed from being Sealed? What, especially, did she do as Cyndane for the Shadow?
After unseal she was rather playing for herself as Ishy pointed out (in Perrin's dream in TDR), and as Cyndane.... Well she could do something if Perrin didn't love his wife that much.
And if we think that The Do needs the Dragon to be compleetlly free then she is responsible for Rand not being killed 3 or 4 times and not being a total noob in the OP meaning also not being killed some (or some 10s) times aswell.

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Wasn't Cyndane behind Masema?
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Wasn't Cyndane behind Masema?
I think every Forsaken was manipulating him; that would explain at least part of his insanity.
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What were the three questions that Moiraine asked the Finn?

That's the only real one, though there were two unresolved issues that annoyed me:

- What ever happened to Logain's glory?

- How did Narishma "follow after"?
The prophecy states "who draws it out shall follow after", referring to Callandor. Narishma "followed after" by drawing the sword from the Stone (heh) after Rand had already touched it, thus fulfilling the prophecy.
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What were the three questions that Moiraine asked the Finn?
I've always been curious about that as well, though I suspect that at least two if not all of them had to do with Rand.

1. What must I do to guide Rand?
2. What must I do to save Rand?
3. What can I do for Rand to help him win the last Battle?

Depending on what information she may have gotten from Min, she might have believed she could stave off her death until getting married and with that expectation in mind, would feel free to ask the questions that mattered to her most, all centering on the Dragon Reborn.
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I've always been curious about that as well, though I suspect that at least two if not all of them had to do with Rand.

1. What must I do to guide Rand?
2. What must I do to save Rand?
3. What can I do for Rand to help him win the last Battle?

Depending on what information she may have gotten from Min, she might have believed she could stave off her death until getting married and with that expectation in mind, would feel free to ask the questions that mattered to her most, all centering on the Dragon Reborn.
I am wondering- what exactly led to moraine being de-powered so much but not lanfear/cyndane?

And if Ishmael knew to go get lanfear shouldn't LTT have told Rand to do the same thing?
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I am wondering- what exactly led to moraine being de-powered so much but not lanfear/cyndane?

And if Ishmael knew to go get lanfear shouldn't LTT have told Rand to do the same thing?
Actually, after reviewing ToM, not so sure about #3, but as far as those are concerned? My guesses:

1. Lanfear died, Moiraine didn't. Tack on the old soul ala the male/female thing to a new body with some DO intervention, and boom, a cobble-job of the old model.

2. Prior to him being Nae'bliss? DO told him to go recover the body, and brought it back for remodeling and mindtrapping.
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I am wondering- what exactly led to moraine being de-powered so much but not lanfear/cyndane?

And if Ishmael knew to go get lanfear shouldn't LTT have told Rand to do the same thing?
It was part of the price that each paid to the finn. They seemed to "eat" Lanfear's power too quickly, killing her, so when she was brought back as Cyndane, she was weaker than she had been as Mierin/Lanfear. They took their time more with Moiraine, so that they could feed without killing her. As for why Rand never did anything about it, he thought she was dead.
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And if Ishmael knew to go get lanfear shouldn't LTT have told Rand to do the same thing?
Maybe Ishy was more knowledgeable

My biggest Q is what will go on about all these things after TG, like Seanchan, Red Ajah/black tower etc etc.
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Well, Rand was pretty well insane at that point, rarely thinking logically, and had taken Lan's word that Moiraine had died (who also believed she was dead). Mat had Thom and Thom's letter to tell him that she was alive.
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Strange thought that I had regarding the sudden appearance of a mysterious and apparently hithertofore unknown "woman" at the end of AMoL.

No major theory behind this, though it certainly does have larger implications, just a point A to point B on two characters who simply exited without fanfare.

Aviendha and Graendal/Hasselam. Rand is dying, his blood on the rocks of Shayol Ghul, seeing one woman through blurred vision: a devoted old woman who might be carrying a crippled Aiel whose clothing he sees.

"Yes. That is good, that is what you need to do."

Graendal is showing Aviendha how to transmigrate Rand's soul into Moridin's body.

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Strange thought that I had regarding the sudden appearance of a mysterious and apparently hithertofore unknown "woman" at the end of AMoL.

No major theory behind this, though it certainly does have larger implications, just a point A to point B on two characters who simply exited without fanfare.

Aviendha and Graendal/Hasselam. Rand is dying, his blood on the rocks of Shayol Ghul, seeing one woman through blurred vision: a devoted old woman who might be carrying a crippled Aiel whose clothing he sees.

"Yes. That is good, that is what you need to do."

Graendal is showing Aviendha how to transmigrate Rand's soul into Moridin's body.

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Who's to say that isn't what I just said?

Um... Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson?

(possibly Harriet and Maria too, to be fair)
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No, no, what I meant was who's to say that what you are saying isn't the exact same thing I am saying? Hmmmmmm? Hmmmmm?

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