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Default Need some advice: is eleven too young to read WoT

Yes, yes, I have my own opinion. I'm asking for yours.

My daughter wants to begin WoT. Of course, while I'm pleased, I know that she is one of us. I have to take her books away from her every night as she quietly devours them. She's read every Warrior Cat book (and many of them a few times) over the course of the last 16 months, and now she's moving on to the Wings of Fire series. That is to say, she'll devour these books once she begins. Though, it's possible that she will NOT enjoy them.

If eleven is the starting age, how many of them would you say still fit in that range? I recognize that everyone is a bit more or less ready at this age, so I'm asking more in general about this age group. It almost seems cruel to allow her to read one now, but then make her wait...like many of us had to wait...until getting access to each subsequent book. But maybe that's the best way to read them...that is, not all at once?

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I believe I could have handled it at that age; I just wasn't aware of the existence of such books so I read other stuff. If she wants to read it, then by all means, she's ready.
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I started reading fantasy/science fiction about this age.

I did not discover WoT till much later.

I think WoT is relatively tame as to sexual language, it is there, but not exactly gratuitous.

There is death etc, but heck most of the "teen" series seem to have lots of deaths, IE Harry potter.

But I do not have kids, so cannot give you that perspective.
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Yes, yes, I have my own opinion. I'm asking for yours.

My daughter wants to begin WoT. Of course, while I'm pleased, I know that she is one of us. I have to take her books away from her every night as she quietly devours them. She's read every Warrior Cat book (and many of them a few times) over the course of the last 16 months, and now she's moving on to the Wings of Fire series. That is to say, she'll devour these books once she begins. Though, it's possible that she will NOT enjoy them.

If eleven is the starting age, how many of them would you say still fit in that range? I recognize that everyone is a bit more or less ready at this age, so I'm asking more in general about this age group. It almost seems cruel to allow her to read one now, but then make her wait...like many of us had to wait...until getting access to each subsequent book. But maybe that's the best way to read them...that is, not all at once?

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Hey Tam,

My eldest is just a litter older than that and she started reading them last year.

It was a big decision as she can be have quite an addictive personality. We got around it by telling her she could only get one every three months.

In the end we made a game of it. As she read I would ask her questions and get her to make predictions and theories. Then I would grade them!!I also blocked this and another website on the family desktop (kids don't have their own and aren't allowed smartphones).

she is on tDR at the minute and is loving it. Nothing in it the series is overly graphic and we encourage her to ask us about anything she doesn't understand.

Be prepared for a couple of things:

1. She loves egwene.
2. And Elayne
3. Questions questions questions questions. Especially on the old tongue. "Do you speak the old tongue daddy?" "Yes"
4. None of her friends being into it. This is a bad thing.
5. Trying to play with any weapons you have. (It was same when she read hunger games. Had to put my bow in the gun cabinet!)
6. Tears.

but I would definitely say it is not too young if you are comfortable with it.

p.s. any chance of that upgrade to "well hung man of peace"? The people are clamoring for it!!!
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Plenty of scary imagery, but I can't recall anything very graphic that ever happened in the books. Probably a product of Jordan's generation. Lots of insinuation, little explicit.

As long as you're comfortable explaining pillowfriends, clad in the light, and the ethics of a mighty hero exploding a whole bunch of innocent people, you should do okay.
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There's no need to explain pillow friends; I can't tell you how many adults I know who did not believe that pillow friends were anything but sleepover buddies. Many still don't believe it despite what RJ said.
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There isn't really anything in any of the wot books of a suggestive nature, certainly not in comparison to say asoiaf or any of ggk's books. I'm not familiar with either of those series that you mentioned, but if she is old enough for series like Tolkien, Harry Potter, and the Hunger Games, she should be fine developmentally with everything in wot. At 11 I had already read Tolkien, the Iliad, the Odyssey, and quite a bit of Asimov and Piers Anthony type stuff. All of those (except Tolkien) had far more suggestive plots than wot. Wot is pretty tame both in terms of sexual and violent content.

Just checked the release date for Eye of the World - I read it about a year after it came out, so was probably 13. There was nothing in it that struck me as remotely risque or scandalous.

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I'd start her with the Scholastic Books versions for the first book(s) (How many volumes did Scholastic print before giving up on the YA printings?)

I'd gauge her reaction/interest from there and let her progress at her own rate. I'd worry more about violence than sexual situations -- except for maybe having to explain Mat and pink ribbons in Ebou Dar.
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Nah, 11 is fine assuming the kid is fairly intelligent/mature for their age. I was around 11 when I first started reading them.
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Yeah, 11 should be okay. Nothing overtly bad, like Game of Thrones, at least not until late in the series. I read LOTR, The Hobbit, The Yearling, The Iliad, and others at about that age. She should be fine. Somethings may need to be explained, but shouldn't be too hard.
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I think I was around 10 when I started reading WoT. I read the entire series straight through (which only went up to WH at the time). I think the only real issue I had was that I got bored after LoC. I read the first 6 books in about a month and a half, but then it took me a while to read aCoS, tPoD, and WH. When CoT came out I bought it right away, but stopped halfway through because I got bored with it. I later reread the whole thing and joined here.

Though I think I benefited from the fact that my parents don't read anything beyond newspapers, so they were hardly checking to make sure what I read was appropriate. I think I read asoiaf when I was 12 or 13.
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I was 9-10 when I started WoT and 10-11ish when I started Robin Hobb, who has some rape scenes, but very well written.
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11 should be ok. At 11 I'd read The Hobbit to shreds (but not LoTR, as that wasn't translated yet), and was digging into The Three Musketeers (and the sequels), Les Miserables, Narnia, Amber ... etc.

I mean, the Three Musketeers sounds all adventure-y and PG, but who's actually read the book? Because it contains adultery, murder and beheading.

The up side for you is that you're a huge fan of the books and she knows it, so she won't feel like she's alone or weird in any way if she likes them.
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I read comparable (in content, not scope) stuff at that age, so my completely uneducated opinion is to go for it.
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I'd read Frank Herbert's Dune and at least one of its sequels by that age.

I would say that it depends on the child whether or not it is a good idea. So for this specific case, I can give you a very definite "maybe". Hope that helps.
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Strongly forbid her to read it, so you're sure she reads this wonderful book from beginning til the end.
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Just FYI I guess I started watching porn movies about that age (or a year later). But I am a boy if it changes somehting.

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11 should be ok. At 11 I'd read The Hobbit to shreds (but not LoTR, as that wasn't translated yet), and was digging into The Three Musketeers (and the sequels), Les Miserables, Narnia, Amber ... etc.

I mean, the Three Musketeers sounds all adventure-y and PG, but who's actually read the book? Because it contains adultery, murder and beheading.

The up side for you is that you're a huge fan of the books and she knows it, so she won't feel like she's alone or weird in any way if she likes them.
Of course, if she doesn't like them, you understand you'll have to disown her. Otherwise, you're not a true fan freak.

So there's that to consider.
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Of course, if she doesn't like them, you understand you'll have to disown her. Otherwise, you're not a true fan freak.

So there's that to consider.
Then again, if Tam finds out now, he can still start all over with a new kid. If he waits a few more decades, that could be trickier. So from a practical point of view, it's best to start as young as possible.
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Of course, if she doesn't like them, you understand you'll have to disown her. Otherwise, you're not a true fan freak.

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I'm not sure how I'll react if my book geek doesn't like the Wheel of Time...
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