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Reports seem to be changing quickly, but 26 dead in multiple attacks, with multiple shooters, and dozens more held hostage.

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Up to 140. Many of them were trapped in a theater with some of the gunmen.
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Up to 140. Many of them were trapped in a theater with some of the gunmen.
http://news.yahoo.com/live-blog-fata...8710.html?nf=1
Al Jazeera right now, I'm still watching the news, is reporting 111 dead, and 93 injured. The numbers keep changing, though, and there is still a state of emergency across France, with all the borders closed, because some of the attackers are still on the loose.
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I'm seeing 112 dead at the Bataclan concert hall, with at least 153 dead so far. This is CNN reporting.
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One of my friends was in Paris for a conference near where the attacks took place & nobody's heard from her yet. :/
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One of my friends was in Paris for a conference near where the attacks took place & nobody's heard from her yet. :/
Fingers crossed for good news Frenzy.

My brother was over in paris but far, far away from the trouble.
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Wondering if Charlie Hebdo is going to release caricatures featuring bodies of those who died during these attacks.
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So very sad. I have a few French friends from Paris, but thankfully they have been accounted for. At least one of the attackers entered as a refugee, so hopefully this wakes Europe up to the fact that contrary to what the media wants to portray, the refugees aren't all young women and children looking for help. Many are coming for the wrong reasons and there needs to be a better system of figuring out who needs help and who is there to destroy. You can't just allow everyone in, because first and foremost you must take care of your people. This refugee crisis, in my opinion, will be the end of Europe as we know it if a better system is not set up. It's time to take the war to the Islamists and send them back to hell. Muslims are generally peaceful people, but Islam is not. Our president loves to preach about how Islam is a religion of peace, but he clearly has not studied the Quran and what Muhammad was all about. ISIS follows strict Quran teachings of Muhammad and until we can admit what is going on, we cannot win.

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So very sad. I have a few French friends from Paris, but thankfully they have been accounted for. At least one of the attackers entered as a refugee, so hopefully this wakes Europe up to the fact that contrary to what the media wants to portray, the refugees aren't all young women and children looking for help. Many are coming for the wrong reasons and there needs to be a better system of figuring out who needs help and who is there to destroy. You can't just allow everyone in, because first and foremost you must take care of your people. This refugee crisis, in my opinion, will be the end of Europe as we know it if a better system is not set up. It's time to take the war to the Islamists and send them back to hell. Muslims are generally peaceful people, but Islam is not. Our president loves to preach about how Islam is a religion of peace, but he clearly has not studied the Quran and what Muhammad was all about. ISIS follows strict Quran teachings of Muhammad and until we can admit what is going on, we cannot win.

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You realize that Muslim isn't an ethnicity right, it is a religious designation - like Christian. I'm not sure where you're hearing that one of them was a refugee, but a source for that would help in verification. As for taking the fight to then, make no mistake, that's what they want.
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Regardless of what you thought of the artwork of Charlie Hebdo in the past, this is an inappropriate comment.
When CH published pictures mocking about victims of plane crash in northern sinai they've stated that morality and alike things mean nothing for them. All I say is that I just would like to see if they were serious or not.
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so hopefully this wakes Europe up to the fact that contrary to what the media wants to portray, the refugees aren't all young women and children looking for help.
Whenever I see such reports it is clear 70-80% of them are young guys (20-25).

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So very sad. I have a few French friends from Paris, but thankfully they have been accounted for. At least one of the attackers entered as a refugee, so hopefully this wakes Europe up to the fact that contrary to what the media wants to portray, the refugees aren't all young women and children looking for help. Many are coming for the wrong reasons and there needs to be a better system of figuring out who needs help and who is there to destroy. You can't just allow everyone in, because first and foremost you must take care of your people. This refugee crisis, in my opinion, will be the end of Europe as we know it if a better system is not set up. It's time to take the war to the Islamists and send them back to hell. Muslims are generally peaceful people, but Islam is not. Our president loves to preach about how Islam is a religion of peace, but he clearly has not studied the Quran and what Muhammad was all about. ISIS follows strict Quran teachings of Muhammad and until we can admit what is going on, we cannot win.

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Normally I defend you south, and i think you get a hard time on here. But that is a pile of horseshit.

Now is not the time. In fact- never is the time for that.

Muslims as a race (which you seem to think they are) did not carry out this atrocity. The people who did it were Muslims. There is a huge difference.

France and it's people have taken a major blow today. Let's all just mourn for them.
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Utterly tragic.

The French response will be extreme I'd imagine. Hollande seemed quite determined during his most recent press conference.
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FWIW, early indications have several of the attackers being French Nationals...and not refugees.
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FWIW, early indications have several of the attackers being French Nationals...and not refugees.
This is the most recent description I can find.

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Islamic State on Saturday claimed responsibility for the atrocities, which the French president, François Hollande, denounced as an “act of war” that must be countered “mercilessly”.

The terror attacks were France’s deadliest since the second world war and the worst witnessed in Europe since the 2004 Madrid railway bombings.

Analysis Paris attacks: what we know so far
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As police worked to identify the eight militants, all of whom died in the attacks, it emerged that at least one of the fighters, identified by his fingerprints, was a French national with known links to Islamist networks from the southern Paris suburb of Courcoronnes.

Investigators also told French media a Syrian passport, belonging to a man born in 1970, and an Egyptian passport had been found lying close by the bodies of two other jihadis, both of whom blew themselves up in the course of their attacks.
I didn't mean to imply that I was denying the possibility, only that it Southpaw was going to blame refugees, that he should at least back up the accusation. And, it must be noted, one amongst thousands should not overwhelm the undeniable fact that the refugee crisis is a legitimate concern that should be addressed as humanely as possible, but also that ISIS certainly had two purposes at least in mind here - eliciting fear and anger in France, and eliciting fear and anger towards the refugees.
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So the French national and the Egyptian passport guy are clearly not Syrian refugees...the Syrian could be of course.

My sole point being that we shouldn't just condemn the refugees for this attack when it was likely something else.
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Love thy neighbor at it's finest right there, folks.



(Oh, and my friend is fine. She was within a few miles of the attacks, but she wasn't impacted. She's already out & back home in Israel.)
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I think I'm saddest because Paris, the loveliest city in the world IMHO, will likely never be the same. The French and Parisians do not deserve this sort of violence.

I also think this attack will be the beginning of the end for ISIS and it will finally get the entire EU moving.
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(Oh, and my friend is fine. She was within a few miles of the attacks, but she wasn't impacted. She's already out & back home in Israel.)
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