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The government has not confirmed casualty numbers. Brussels transport officials say 15 died at Maelbeek and media say up to 13 died at the airport.
Belgium has now raised its terror threat to its highest level.
The attacks come four days after Salah Abdeslam, the main fugitive in the Paris attacks, was seized in Brussels.
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Disgusting and sad. Isn't the 400 days of rain they get each year enough for the Belgians?
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Disgusting and sad.
Agreed, but unfortunately, it's working. Right wing reactionaries are popping up everywhere, feeding off the fear and anger that these types of events are producing. This will also further politicize the question of the refugees, and almost certainly end any chance of really salvaging Schengen.
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Isn't the victim count a lot lower than you'd expect? Or is it just me?
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The victem count is rising. It's now 34.

There are many more heavy wounded.
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There are many more heavy wounded.
Dead and injured together just over a hundred right? From an attack on an airport. You'd expect a lot more than that.
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Dead and injured together just over a hundred right? From an attack on an airport. You'd expect a lot more than that.
This depends entirely on what sort of explosives were used and how strategically they were placed.
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Dead and injured together just over a hundred right? From an attack on an airport. You'd expect a lot more than that.
Its like the Boston Marathon bombing...depending on the type of bomb used, there's like a ton of injured by shrapnel type of wounds but not as many killed as you'd expect. Ironically, a heavy crowd can almost muffle an explosion under certain circumstances.
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Further reading suggests it was weak explosives because they were strategically placed - people ran from the first blast to get out, and ran right into the second blast.

ISIS has claimed responsibility.
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Further reading suggests it was weak explosives because they were strategically placed - people ran from the first blast to get out, and ran right into the second blast.

ISIS has claimed responsibility.
Smart planning...not exactly graduate level but still a step beyond a single device.
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Immediately after we killed Jihadi John, Paris was attacked. Immediately after Belgium captured the leader of the Paris attacks, Belgium was attacked. Not sure if coincidental or a reaction.
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Immediately after we killed Jihadi John, Paris was attacked. Immediately after Belgium captured the leader of the Paris attacks, Belgium was attacked. Not sure if coincidental or a reaction.
I would guess with about a 90% certainty that these are reactionary attacks to the capture. And I think 90% is a low end figure.
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Further reading suggests it was weak explosives because they were strategically placed - people ran from the first blast to get out, and ran right into the second blast.

ISIS has claimed responsibility.
And the thing there is that they shouldn't even if they did it. They have already established their terrorist credentials so creating rumors of a separate organization possibly allied to their cause would be a much more effective move.
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And the thing there is that they shouldn't even if they did it. They have already established their terrorist credentials so creating rumors of a separate organization possibly allied to their cause would be a much more effective move.
Meh, ISIS has adopted the Al Qaeda strategy of loose organization because independent cells that don't have to wait on orders from above are more difficult for law enforcement to uncover definitively.
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Why?
Al Qaeda got such an allied organisation, but now that ally (ISIS) is totally eclipsing Al Qaeada. I don't think ISIS wants that to happen to them as well.
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Dead and injured together just over a hundred right? From an attack on an airport. You'd expect a lot more than that.
no unfortunately there were more, 34 deads and 240 injured.
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Al Qaeda got such an allied organisation, but now that ally (ISIS) is totally eclipsing Al Qaeada. I don't think ISIS wants that to happen to them as well.
Do they want to be on the top of their side or do they want to take the other down? If they used to different names in claiming responsibility and other ways to create false trails, they'd multiply the terror effect and inspire other terror groups to join in on spreading the chaos. As a result the anti-muslim sentiments go up and that is taken out on the kind of muslims the terrorists see as traitors to the cause. Those "traitors" become unwilling martyrs and recruitment goes up. See where this is going?
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no unfortunately there were more, 34 deads and 240 injured.
Much closer to what I was expecting pessimistic cynic that I am. Just goes to show you should never trust the first report.
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Much closer to what I was expecting pessimistic cynic that I am. Just goes to show you should never trust the first report.
yeah, there were a lot of wounded. so i guess a lot of people died later.
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