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They're saying 85% likelihood that they'll leave now...looks really bad.

Dow is down over 500 in future trading. UK markets down around 10% and the is down over 11% so far against the $.
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ITV news has called it for Leaving as has the BBC.
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You silly Brits...thanks for destroying the world economy with your stupidity.
It's official.

The pound and Asian markets are already taking a hit. Others will undoubtedly follow as other markets open tomorrow. Economic fallout isn't the only worry. Will this resuscitate the schism between Scotland and England, with Scotland in the EU, and England out? Will France leave? Will the EU completely crumble?

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Great time to travel to the UK though...dollar goes a long way now.

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welp. it's started, Northern Ireland is demanding a referendum on leaving UK as they voted strongly for staying. As did Scotland.

so, prediction time: in 15 years from now, Ireland will be one, Scotland will be separate from UK and both will be in EU (or possibly, in the union of the Nordics, if the EU should fall apart). England will have applied to become the 52nd state of US and have the same status as Puerto Rico.

btw, I still consider it unlikely that EU will disintegrate as a lot of the fearmongers try and "analyse". For the Brits... well, it's not like they were ever properly IN the EU to be honest, they don't use the Euro and they don't have open borders with Schengen. it's a pity it's gone this way but then again, there's no point in keeping someone in if they want to get out. Good luck and thanks for all the fish.
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Yeah, so bye bye Untied Kingdom. It's a sad affair, especially if you look at he big age divide in the numbers from the pollsters. They say young voters where overwhelmingly in favour of staying.


Only upside, it looks like my holiday suddenly got a bit cheaper, as I'm visiting Scotland in two weeks time.
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so, prediction time: in 15 years from now, Ireland will be one, Scotland will be separate from UK and both will be in EU (or possibly, in the union of the Nordics, if the EU should fall apart). England will have applied to become the 52nd state of US and have the same status as Puerto Rico.
Ireland and Scotland are both Gaelic nations (though no Scotsman speaks his language anymore, admittedly), so perhaps they could form a union of their own. They would need a king, obviously, and finding one they agreed on could be tricky.

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I am worried about the future of th EU. There are lots of people who are sceptical of the EU. I really hope that this will change
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It may be cynical of me, but I expect the initial reaction of our esteemed leaders to be a further move towards unification. This will then lead to more disgruntlement, and hence to a strengthening of the anti-EU sentiments.
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Oh, I don't know. Specifically for the Netherlands this might actually be a good thing.

After all, London can no longer be the financial centre of Europe, so that'll need to shift. The most obvious choice would be France or Germany, but they're too big, that would cause too much conflict, besides there'd be a language issue. Belgium is out because nobody would want Brussels to have even more power. Spain and Italy are out too, partly because of the language, partly because they're also "too big", so again, too much power; and partly because they're too much to the South. It won't be one of the Eastern European or Balkan countries, their economies aren't strong enough. and it won't be one of the Scandinavian countries, they're too far to the North. Switzerland might be excellent but it isn't in EU... so of the actually suitable choices we've got Austria, Ireland or the Netherlands. What with UK out, the Netherlands is now the 5th biggest economy in EU and about 80% of all European trade goes through here anyways, so it's the most logical choice.
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Oh, I don't know. Specifically for the Netherlands this might actually be a good thing.

After all, London can no longer be the financial centre of Europe, so that'll need to shift. The most obvious choice would be France or Germany, but they're too big, that would cause too much conflict, besides there'd be a language issue. Belgium is out because nobody would want Brussels to have even more power. Spain and Italy are out too, partly because of the language, partly because they're also "too big", so again, too much power; and partly because they're too much to the South. It won't be one of the Eastern European or Balkan countries, their economies aren't strong enough. and it won't be one of the Scandinavian countries, they're too far to the North. Switzerland might be excellent but it isn't in EU... so of the actually suitable choices we've got Austria, Ireland or the Netherlands. What with UK out, the Netherlands is now the 5th biggest economy in EU and about 80% of all European trade goes through here anyways, so it's the most logical choice.
Yeah, but it seems there are lot's of morons in the netherlands as well who want a Nexit......
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The world survived your subprime mortgage crisis, I'm pretty sure it'll survive Brexit too.
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Yes, but it will create at least short-term instability globally, and long-term issues for you. And likely the end of the UK, as at least Scotland, and perhaps Northern Ireland will now almost certainly secede. And this has to hurt the EU long-term as well. Not just in terms of the potential danger of this leading to a cascade of other possible departures, but also simply in terms of economic strength. This would be like New York, Texas, or California voting to secede the Union. Sure we would survive, but that would be a massive economic hit. It just seems an obvious mistake.
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Yes, but it will create at least short-term instability globally, and long-term issues for you. And likely the end of the UK, as at least Scotland, and perhaps Northern Ireland will now almost certainly secede. And this has to hurt the EU long-term as well. Not just in terms of the potential danger of this leading to a cascade of other possible departures, but also simply in terms of economic strength. This would be like New York, Texas, or California voting to secede the Union. Sure we would survive, but that would be a massive economic hit. It just seems an obvious mistake.
To be clear, I voted in favour of remaining in the EU, I'm not happy that we've voted out and I expect to lose my job or at least some of my hours in the next few months (my part of the country received substantial funding from the EU through both development funds and the common agricultural policy, and other than that is heavily dependent on tourism which will suffer as a result of economic uncertainty here and in the rest of Europe. I have no faith that the Westminster government will maintain this funding long term given the leave campaign's rhetoric on the money we were giving to the EU and their general attitude to this part of the country). That said, I find Davian's post irritating, offensive and ridiculous.
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... I expect to lose my job or at least some of my hours in the next few months ...
You may have a bit more time than that, since the quickest way of leaving without massive trouble would take a few years plus whatever time is needed by the politicians to handle stuff. On the other hand, it is likely that a lot of jobs will disappear before they really need to, since the employers won't be willing to pay wages any longer than absolutely necessary.
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Tourism from the USA should go up at least now that its a bit more affordable for us to come over. Same with tourists from Europe I suppose given the Euro gaining strength over the Pound.

And it'll help your exports compete a bit more as that's also a nice side benefit of a weaker currency.

Overall though, a massive blow economically in the short-term and over the next couple years since the uncertainly will kill long-term investments in the UK until the dust settles.

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You'll have to get over it then since I'm not taking it back. Voting to leave the EU was idiotic at best by the UK and it's gonna screw up the world economy the next couple years which could very well lead to more stupid decisions abroad.

I'd expect you to post the same thing about the US if we elected Trump as our President...or did something similarly idiotic. Bowing to xenophobic hysteria and then allowing that sort of emotion to run a nation is never a good road to go down.
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