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Hillary Clinton 9 81.82%
Donald Trump 1 9.09%
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Given the ridiculous length of the current thread, I thought it was time for a reboot (preferably with a female lead!)
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So you're the designated token female, Dav?

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Let's go with Grace Park. She usually gets the job of the "male character changed into a female character" during show reboots.
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So you're the designated token female, Dav?

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I also can't vote for anyone in this poll. Hillary will probably win, but that answer is too easy.
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That's not how Elections work. They work by picking the person you hate the most and then voting for the person that will ensure they don't get into office.
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By the way (since this might become relevant in the near future) do you guys have your time travel passwords set up?

If you don't know a time travel is a password (phrase, act, song) only you know (NEVER SHARE IT WITH ANYONE...ANYONE) in case your future self has to travel into the past in order to fix a problem. I mean if someone that looks like you, but a little order shows up, and starts saying things like, "aliens invade and Clinton just surrenders. Trump is insane, but he's our only hope for fighting them off!" you're probably not going to believe them.

That said, if you've got your time travel password, and they know it, then you know that they're (probably) on the level and this isn't some creepy crazy doppelganger trying to blow you up in order to prevent you from saving the world.

While you're add it you should set up a few more. One is the opposite, as my friend called it, the kill code. This one is in case you're compromised, and you should do your level best to stop your future self. This likely involves some covert monitoring of your future self and hostages.

There's also a pair that's needed if something happens to you. Like if you get hurt, or cut off, or otherwise can't make the trip back. In that case you need another pair of passwords to tell the person that's being sent back in your place. Again, one for help and one as a kill code.
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I live in IL; the state will go for Hillary no matter who I vote for. The only people whose votes matter are people who live in swing states. Like Dav, who is moving to CO. Or Verin Mathwin aka Mat (long time no see, here at least) who lives in Ohio. I can't remember if we have any Theorylanders in Florida, which is the other big swing state (with OH). I think SP is in NC, which is kind of swingy. All of those people are voting for Hillary. None of the rest of us matter.
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If enough people in Texas vote "no Trump" then that state might go nowhere at all. That'd be amusing, wouldn't it?
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Elections are sad enough, T, try to take some humour whee you can...
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Elections are only sad when the republicans win. I just find it odd that I'm nigh certain that Terez will vote for Tammy Duckworth (and likely whichever dem is running as the house rep where she lives), but not for Hillary. It's like saying that sure you're rooting for Michigan to beat Ohio State, but you hope Ohio State injures your quarterback.
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Hillary Clinton is the Michigan quarterback? I'm not sure it explains a lot, but it is definitely something I've never heard a Republican complain about, so it might actually be true.
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The analogy does fit on a number of levels. The two teams are rivals that hate each other. Michigan is blue (maize and blue, but you get the idea), like the dems. Ohio State is red (technically scarlet and gray, but...), like the republicans. Michigan is very liberal. Ohio State is conservative. Michigan is the more prestigious, more research oriented university. Ohio State, to their credit, unlike the Republican Party, has in recent years vastly improved their prestige and their academic standing, but they still aren't Michigan. Michigan is a wolverine, rather than a donkey, but the donkey is a fricking awful mascot, not surprising however, as its only our mascot because Andrew Jackson was a jackass. The Buckeyes mascot is a buckeye, which while not an elephant, and a silly mascot, is admittedly still a better mascot than an elephant. And, of course, like a football game, there are really only two teams involved. People may like Gary Johnson or Jill Stein more, but they are not really in the game. Voting for either of them is like rooting for Northwestern to win the game between Michigan and Ohio State.
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Elections are only sad when the republicans win. I just find it odd that I'm nigh certain that Terez will vote for Tammy Duckworth (and likely whichever dem is running as the house rep where she lives), but not for Hillary. It's like saying that sure you're rooting for Michigan to beat Ohio State, but you hope Ohio State injures your quarterback.
Politics is not a team sport for everyone. I don't have a strong identification with the Democratic Party, not strong enough to vote for a candidate I dislike as much as Hillary, though I admit I'd probably do it if I was in a swing state that Trump had a chance in hell of winning.

I like Tammy Duckworth; she's not perfect but she's pretty good. As a candidate she's nothing like Hillary. I know she endorsed her, but realistically it's not like she had a choice.
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Politics is not a team sport for everyone. I don't have a strong identification with the Democratic Party, not strong enough to vote for a candidate I dislike as much as Hillary, though I admit I'd probably do it if I was in a swing state that Trump had a chance in hell of winning.

I like Tammy Duckworth; she's not perfect but she's pretty good. As a candidate she's nothing like Hillary. I know she endorsed her, but realistically it's not like she had a choice.
I just wish Tammy would stand up for veterans is all. Why does she refuse to stand like that?
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Elections are only sad when the republicans win. I just find it odd that I'm nigh certain that Terez will vote for Tammy Duckworth (and likely whichever dem is running as the house rep where she lives), but not for Hillary. It's like saying that sure you're rooting for Michigan to beat Ohio State, but you hope Ohio State injures your quarterback.
No, this is a sad election. Clinton may be the progressive candidate, but her Presidency will still be a disaster. A mitigated disaster, but still a disaster. I can only imagine how much harder the Republicans will double down (trpile? Quadruple?) on the on the obstructions and general running of the US government.

For reference, I think that Trump would be an unmitigated disaster and would rather the laws be amended so that Clinton's term I'd 25 years rather than have Trump for a single year, but it's going to be a mess.

At least for Canada's horrible elections it was a robot vs. a man with no personality. You guys have two caricatures.
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A guess: timing. Things are already chaotic out there. If she throws down now she might get lost in the whirlwind. Perhaps in 2020 or 2024 she can throw down and make her move.
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Let's be honest, it wouldn't matter who the Dems ran, the GOP would be nothing but obstructionist from start to finish. That's all they know how to do anymore.
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Yes, but I think they're going to try extra hard with this one.
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Yes, but I think they're going to try extra hard with this one.
All that Obama was able to get done was back when the dems still controlled congress. The dems controlled congress when Lilly Ledbetter and the ACA were both passed. Likewise when Kagan and Sotomayor were nominated and confirmed. Since the republicans won the house and the senate, all they have done is hold a dozen hearings on Benghazi and threaten to shut down the government every year. They've blocked everything, even attempts to do anything after Sandy Hook, and had the audacity to assert that Obama didn't even have the right to even nominate a new justice to replace Scalia. Bernie's supporters blame Obama and Hillary for not getting enough progressive reforms done, but it wasn't because they were somehow conservative, it's because the republicans control congress. Which democrat, Bernie or Hillary, is in power doesn't matter as regards how much intent to obstruct the republicans will possess. They will obstruct everything unless congress is again placed into the control of the only responsible party.

There are things that the president can do w/o congress, but not legislation, and certainly better to get nothing done there, than to face the insanity of letting the republicans control both congress and the presidency, which won't only mean dangerous legislation and pointless wars, but will also soon mean very long republican control of the supreme court as well.

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