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oh wow. Great to know that society and science haven't evolved since 1946, WH
I would never claim that it hasn't. I'm just pointing out ONE turning point in that evolution that led to what we have today.

I'm also not particularly happy with some of the evolution that derives from that turning point.
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Any such research would inevitably come up with the common sense option of "ban guns". All the gun advocates know this.
The existing research didn't come up with that conclusion. Of course, DOD and NATO were looking for different conclusions than doctors would be.

Still, the research and documentation is out there, it doesn't need to be repeated. Re-examined, maybe, but I can't see regathering the same information.

PS: If you know what the research would show, it either doesn't need to be done or you are entering the investigation with a prejudgement and are only looking for "facts" to reinforce your opinion.
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Aside from psychological ideas, some of his physiological suggestions were (also) faulty:

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Spock advocated that infants should not be placed on their back when sleeping, commenting in his 1958 edition that "if [an infant] vomits, he's more likely to choke on the vomitus." This advice was extremely influential on health-care providers, with nearly unanimous support through to the 1990s.[20] Later empirical studies, however, found that there is a significantly increased risk of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) associated with infants sleeping on their abdomens. Advocates of evidence-based medicine have used this as an example of the importance of basing health-care recommendations on statistical evidence, with one researcher estimating that as many as 50,000 infant deaths in Europe, Australia, and the US could have been prevented had this advice been altered by 1970, when such evidence became available.[21]
Which is not to say that practices based on tradition rather than a book are any better - I'm thinking of severe baby swaddling, Chinese female foot mangling, circumcision (both male and female)...

On the other hand, whenever I read testimonials for attachment parenting, I also get quite agitated. Then again, what works for one kid doesn't at all for another. My sister and I apparently had a totally different mother.
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Some people are sufficiently honest that facts can occasionally show them that their prejudgements were wrong.
When one side in an argument is asking for an investigation, and the other side says (effectively, not literally) "we are fine with dead kids everywhere", then it isn't too surprising when that first group thinks that more facts wouldn't be a threat to their view, is it?
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oh wow. Great to know that society and science haven't evolved since 1946, WH

Also, this just in: just because lots of people believe something to be true doesn't make it actually true. Case in point: Vaccine doubters.
All anti-vaxxer parents who refuse to vaccinate their children should be injected with polio.

That way they learn why vaccinations are important.

Also, I'd like to prop up the iron lung industry as a jobs creator.
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Aside from psychological ideas, some of his physiological suggestions were (also) faulty:



Which is not to say that practices based on tradition rather than a book are any better - I'm thinking of severe baby swaddling, Chinese female foot mangling, circumcision (both male and female)...

On the other hand, whenever I read testimonials for attachment parenting, I also get quite agitated. Then again, what works for one kid doesn't at all for another. My sister and I apparently had a totally different mother.
How ridiculously sad...everyone knows that SIDS is caused by an imbalance between yellow bile and blood. That's why all babies need to regularly be bled to keep everything leveled off.

Stupid people with their idiotic "medical" theories.
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Looks like Gates didnít want to spend the rest of his life in prison...

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US President Donald Trump's former deputy campaign manager has pleaded guilty to charges of conspiracy and lying to investigators.
The plea deal indicates Rick Gates may co-operate with special counsel Robert Mueller's inquiry into alleged Russian political meddling in the US.
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Sentencing guidelines for Mr Gates suggested a prison term of between 57 and 71 months.
I assume that is what he will face just with the perjury and conspiracy to defraud the govt, i.e. with his plea. Have to believe that his money-laundering charges would have run in the decades. Not sure what Manafort is waiting for, except maybe a pardon...
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